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it's important to remember this is not a fiscal cliff. the cliff as you say is something that occurs in nature. you come up on a cliff and if you don't slow down, you plummet to your death. this is a fiscal suicide vest. this is congress rigging the system and saying last year in 2011 it actually was, we can't be trusted to make good, mature decisions about what needs to be done. we're going to booby-trap the system, and if we can't act like adults this date certain, it will explode and be awful. it turns out enthuse kantd make the responsible decisions together. no one should mistake for a naturally occurring part of the legislative process. they created this disaster and can't deal with it. when they talk about how they wish he they could be home with their families, people will lose unemployment benefits. >> where do you see this ending? what's your gut instinct now? are we going to get -- because i hear from both sides at this point saying, well, we might be in a better position come january 2nd or 3rd or 4th. >> my gut instinct was w
it's important to remember this is not a fiscal cliff. the cliff as you say is something that occurs in nature. you come up on a cliff and if you don't slow down, you plummet to your death. this is a fiscal suicide vest. this is congress rigging the system and saying last year in 2011 it actually was, we can't be trusted to make good, mature decisions about what needs to be done. we're going to booby-trap the system, and if we can't act like adults this date certain, it will explode and be...
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so what is the fiscal cliff? the fiscal cliff is the check. it's the tab after the buffet of all that spending. so the irony is everyone in the beltway thinks it's so terrible we are going over the fiscal cliff because it's so irresponsible. well, ironically it's the opposite. the whole point of the fiscal cliff is when the fiscal cliff is cleared and we jump over it, we are getting rid of all the accounting game mix, the temporary stings of things that allow congress to pretend it's being fiscally responsible when it's not. what's going to happen? a lot of taxes will go up but taxes will go up on everybody, not injure the guy around the tree that's paying for everything but everyone will have to pay. and then folks will realize the government we are voting for costs us money too. >> that's the thing. if we don't go over the cliff and they don't reach a compromise, what will happen? they can't afford to keep spending like this. won't spending have to go down by virtue after compromise not being reached? spending will go down a little bit becau
so what is the fiscal cliff? the fiscal cliff is the check. it's the tab after the buffet of all that spending. so the irony is everyone in the beltway thinks it's so terrible we are going over the fiscal cliff because it's so irresponsible. well, ironically it's the opposite. the whole point of the fiscal cliff is when the fiscal cliff is cleared and we jump over it, we are getting rid of all the accounting game mix, the temporary stings of things that allow congress to pretend it's being...
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>> z we're not on the verge of fiscal cliff, we have already gone over the of fiscal cliff. look at our problem with spending, how bloated our government is. we're $16 trillion in debt. something needs to be done. this year we're going to spend $165 billion more than we receive in social security. $3 we're going to spend for every 65 we receive in social security in medicare. this is absolutely -- we need to stop. this is not fair to young people. it's not fair for future generations they have to inherit this debt. something needs to be done. >> i agree. what do we do when we have personal debt? we raise our income, we want to raise our revenue and cut spending. >> we're not going to take -- >> we put it forward and we've cut spending cut $.5 trillion last year. >> where? >> i want to take money from the private sector and give it to a bunch of bureau kratz. let the money stay in the private sector. don't raise taxes when we have a slow economy. >> why are you telling me that? tell john boehner not to raise taxes. he'll raise them on all of us. the congress is on taxes. ever
>> z we're not on the verge of fiscal cliff, we have already gone over the of fiscal cliff. look at our problem with spending, how bloated our government is. we're $16 trillion in debt. something needs to be done. this year we're going to spend $165 billion more than we receive in social security. $3 we're going to spend for every 65 we receive in social security in medicare. this is absolutely -- we need to stop. this is not fair to young people. it's not fair for future generations they...
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we're actually over the fiscal cliff. so, now it's up to the republican-controlled house to pull us back. here's what happened while you were sleeping, or sleeping or dg else. a deal crafted by vice president joe biden and minority leader mitch mcconnell passed the senate by a margin of 89-8. that vote wrapped up after 2:00 a.m. eastern time. the house takes up this plan later on this morning. no telling on how that will turn out if the house approves, the deal will estimate a generated $600 billion over the next ten years this is how senate leaders of both sides of the aisle are assessing the measure. >> i have said all along, the most important priority is protecting middle class families. >> this suhouldn't be the model for how we do things. but we can say we've done some good for the country. >> bush era tax cuts will remain in place for individuals earning less than 400,000, couples earning less than 450,000. unemployment benefits for 2 million americans would be extended for a year. the alternative minimum tax perma
we're actually over the fiscal cliff. so, now it's up to the republican-controlled house to pull us back. here's what happened while you were sleeping, or sleeping or dg else. a deal crafted by vice president joe biden and minority leader mitch mcconnell passed the senate by a margin of 89-8. that vote wrapped up after 2:00 a.m. eastern time. the house takes up this plan later on this morning. no telling on how that will turn out if the house approves, the deal will estimate a generated $600...
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cliff. it's a cliff that the lawmakers built. they've set the tuesday deadline, they've known it was coming for more it and a year. but until now they've done little to agree on tax increases on tax cuts until that time. people in this building have none what's coming on tuesday yet they're only returning to get back to work just now. senate came back yesterday. house members, well, they won't be back until sunday. this afternoon house on senate leaders met with president obama at the white house. they talked for about an hour. afterwards president obama said he was modestly optimistic. bypassing house speaker john boehner, who has had trouble getting his fellow republicans to agree to anything, the president called on senate majority on minority leads are harry reid on mitch mcconnell to work out a deal on then present it to the house. he also laid out a scaled down mini deal if they are can't manage it. >> if we don't see an agreement between the two leaders in the senate, i expect a bill
cliff. it's a cliff that the lawmakers built. they've set the tuesday deadline, they've known it was coming for more it and a year. but until now they've done little to agree on tax increases on tax cuts until that time. people in this building have none what's coming on tuesday yet they're only returning to get back to work just now. senate came back yesterday. house members, well, they won't be back until sunday. this afternoon house on senate leaders met with president obama at the white...
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byy the fiscal cliff, the debt ceiling -- shibani: the fiscal cliff -- >> cash is king. next you may expect earnings -- it is better than losing. we have seen how fast these markets are reacting to the news. yesterday if you wanted to take a larger position you could short the market using exchange traded funds without getting out of your positions and go into the bond market for the treasury's o take some kind of yield out of that. shibani: specific names. >> t l p is long-term treasury bond which for full disclosure i own from my clients. i am short using the et after the stock-market and the s&p and the dow and the russell. my client's head of ford folios and we have smaller stocks like family dollar stores. if the economy gets worse and full disclosure we do own family dollar, these kind of companies are going to do well when people have no money. shibani: great hedge plays, thanks very much. -pdennis: john brown coming up, the only real fix for washington gridlock is to limit legislators to 1-year terms. shibani: crisis averted on the east coast. massive looming por
byy the fiscal cliff, the debt ceiling -- shibani: the fiscal cliff -- >> cash is king. next you may expect earnings -- it is better than losing. we have seen how fast these markets are reacting to the news. yesterday if you wanted to take a larger position you could short the market using exchange traded funds without getting out of your positions and go into the bond market for the treasury's o take some kind of yield out of that. shibani: specific names. >> t l p is long-term...
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we can either move forward in a bipartisan way, hand in hand over the fiscal cliff, or our republican colleagues can help lead us off that cliff. hope that is not the case. >> can i just ask what are your spies on the other side in essence telling you what is going on over there because you have to count heads with them as well? >> and not stipulating to any characterization of any information we received. [laughter] i really have no ideas. >> getting them to try to prove this, what are you hearing from the other side, anything? >> what your question is better addressed to the republicans coming out of their conference. we just came out of hours and we know what you tell us as to what is coming out of their caucus. >> we have not had an opportunity to talk to the leadership at this point. >> you have said you preferred a straight up or down vote, is that because of the time were that because of the vice president? >> it was a bill passed in the united states senate 89-8. tell me when you have had that on a measure as controversial as this. >> they had troubles with that one almost to
we can either move forward in a bipartisan way, hand in hand over the fiscal cliff, or our republican colleagues can help lead us off that cliff. hope that is not the case. >> can i just ask what are your spies on the other side in essence telling you what is going on over there because you have to count heads with them as well? >> and not stipulating to any characterization of any information we received. [laughter] i really have no ideas. >> getting them to try to prove...
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how likely it is we will go over the fiscal cliff. i'm curious what the mood is like in washington, d.c. right now? >> there's an infinitesimal improvement in washington because of the meeting today, but i still would say the odds, the people placing bets in this town still expect that the nation will go over the fiscal cliff. still a little more hope than when we woke up this morning, but no one is counting on being off on new year's eve. >> jessica, thanks. more now on the raw politics with "new york times" columnist raffle, and cornell belcher. the president said he wanted to see a straight up or down vote. as we mentioned, that will happen on monday in the senate. he could lose that up or down vote. >> what you're likely to see is something come out of the senate. you have to pay attention, especially on the senate side, to tone. what minority leader mcconnell was saying today, the tone was right. i think you'll see something coming out of the senate on an up or down vote which they'll have to have happen, but i think the problem
how likely it is we will go over the fiscal cliff. i'm curious what the mood is like in washington, d.c. right now? >> there's an infinitesimal improvement in washington because of the meeting today, but i still would say the odds, the people placing bets in this town still expect that the nation will go over the fiscal cliff. still a little more hope than when we woke up this morning, but no one is counting on being off on new year's eve. >> jessica, thanks. more now on the raw...
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what happens next in the debate over the fiscal cliff. caller: i think with the current state of our economy, if the government is not doing their job and are taking their vacation and stuff, why don't they start at minimum wage? that would wrestle them up. get rid of their pensions and put them on 401k's. it is about time we started to take care of the people again. host: barbara from manchester, new jersey. caller: you will never get the gop in power to cooperate. that is not their goal. their goal is to make president obama a failure, no matter what it does to this country. thank you. host: lots of different points of view. joshua gordon. guest: the main issue is when you look at how spending programs are growing more quickly than the economy. we need to look at how we are going to pay for that. we are not going to pay for it with a major reform. this fiscal cliff thing is a short-term issue. we are trying to recover from this financial crisis. the economy is slowly doing better but still has not come back to pre-crisis levels. do we w
what happens next in the debate over the fiscal cliff. caller: i think with the current state of our economy, if the government is not doing their job and are taking their vacation and stuff, why don't they start at minimum wage? that would wrestle them up. get rid of their pensions and put them on 401k's. it is about time we started to take care of the people again. host: barbara from manchester, new jersey. caller: you will never get the gop in power to cooperate. that is not their goal....
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is going over the fiscal cliff. the real question now is whether washington can get its act together before the economy takes a hit and whether washington and lawmakers can somehow hold that off. the votes we don't know how they will come down and whether they will come down tonight in the senate or tomorrow in the house. but, tonight is also new year's eve. we are an hour and 15 minutes and 30 some seconds from the big crystal ball in times square and there you see it dropping down. and right in front of that crystal ball, my friends and colleagues, megyn kelly and bill hemmer. hi, guys. >> hey, bret. it's new year's eve. >> bret: how are you? >> we are doing fine. i think these are one of the many days, bret, no offense, we are thankful we live in new york city and not washington, d.c. >> did you draw the short straw or what, brother? >> bret: , we did a special report and thought this is great. we will do a live 8:00 p.m. and be all set and then. >> go home with the kids and hang out with the wife, you know. >> i
is going over the fiscal cliff. the real question now is whether washington can get its act together before the economy takes a hit and whether washington and lawmakers can somehow hold that off. the votes we don't know how they will come down and whether they will come down tonight in the senate or tomorrow in the house. but, tonight is also new year's eve. we are an hour and 15 minutes and 30 some seconds from the big crystal ball in times square and there you see it dropping down. and right...
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cliff. >> barrasso said president obama is eager to go over the fiscal cliff. senator barrasso joins us. well, why do you say that? >> well, i think the president sees political victory at the bottom of the cliff in term of the increased tax money coming in that he can spend for other programs. i think he sees a lot the military which the democrats have been after for a long time and then he gets to do what he loves to do, is to blame republicans. my concern is that i actually see financial problems for our nation at the bottom of the cliff and that's why i want to get a solution. >> tomorrow do you think it's going to be the beginning of the emergency meeting at the white house, is it the beginning of a deal or is it a political drama? >> my concern is it may be a political charade by the president and harry reid and nancy pelosi. i hope it actually is the beginning of a deal because if we don't get it done now, we need to go and make sure that things get done so we don't raise taxes and taxes aren't raised for all these americans that are looking at it come j
cliff. >> barrasso said president obama is eager to go over the fiscal cliff. senator barrasso joins us. well, why do you say that? >> well, i think the president sees political victory at the bottom of the cliff in term of the increased tax money coming in that he can spend for other programs. i think he sees a lot the military which the democrats have been after for a long time and then he gets to do what he loves to do, is to blame republicans. my concern is that i actually see...
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to address the fiscal cliff. talks will take place behind closed doors. no public negotiations set. you have the debt and the fiscal cliff. it's not looking too good right now when it comes to the u.s. economy. >> geithner told congressional leaders that his department is using some accounting measures basically a fancy way of saying they're going to free up cash to hold off temporarily this fiscal cliff. but it's still not looking good. >> i don't know about you at home, but kicking the can down the road has been happening over and over again. somebody has to make some decisions here. >> it's like in this business, they give you a deadline and you have to hit the deadline. there's no coming in and saying take another ten minutes. it don't work that way in real life. there are americans out there saying get off your couches. get back to washington and get the deal done. >> sometimes it's not pretty when you have to rush, but get it done. >>> still on the economy now, new signs of a turn around in the real estate
to address the fiscal cliff. talks will take place behind closed doors. no public negotiations set. you have the debt and the fiscal cliff. it's not looking too good right now when it comes to the u.s. economy. >> geithner told congressional leaders that his department is using some accounting measures basically a fancy way of saying they're going to free up cash to hold off temporarily this fiscal cliff. but it's still not looking good. >> i don't know about you at home, but...
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ten days until we got the fiscal cliff. president obama speaking moments ago, saying that maybe some time off will give both parties perspective to drink some eggnog, sing some careless, maybe reached the fiscal cliff deal. how speaker john boehner is doing damage control on their plan b mess. before heading out for the holidays. even as americans are facing more than $500 billion in tax hikes coming on january 1. with more on this, we have peter barnes, fox business sr. washington correspondent. what did the president have to say moments ago? >> john boehner did say that this would be a cooling off period. maybe they would have some time to reflect here. the president said that he did speak on the phone to speaker john boehner this afternoon. he also had majority leader harry reid to avoid the fiscal cliff and figure out a passport. he said he is ready and willing to try to get a compromise package done. all at once or stuff like that. but we'll have to wait until after the holiday. the president planning to hold out for t
ten days until we got the fiscal cliff. president obama speaking moments ago, saying that maybe some time off will give both parties perspective to drink some eggnog, sing some careless, maybe reached the fiscal cliff deal. how speaker john boehner is doing damage control on their plan b mess. before heading out for the holidays. even as americans are facing more than $500 billion in tax hikes coming on january 1. with more on this, we have peter barnes, fox business sr. washington...
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. >> thank you, krystal ball, that wraps up our hour of the coverage of the fiscal cliff negotiations. thank you for joining us, and happy new year to you. msnbc's live coverage continues after this. >>> i am melissa rayburger, and we are continuing our coverage of the capitol hill, an agreement reached with the democrats and republicans to reach the deal. vice president joe biden came to meet with the democrats and try to sell the new deal that would prevent the across-the-board tax increases and spending cuts to a wide range of government programs. we've also learned that president obama personally called harry reid and nancy pelosi to ensure that they are on board with this plan. our chuck todd says it is not likely that we would see a deal on that vote before midnight, just on the logistical standpoint the house remains adjourned until tomorrow. mike, what is the latest you're hearing about a possible vote tonight, maybe not before midnight at this point, but sometime during the night? >> yeah, i don't think it will happen before midnight, just too many procedural hoops to jump th
. >> thank you, krystal ball, that wraps up our hour of the coverage of the fiscal cliff negotiations. thank you for joining us, and happy new year to you. msnbc's live coverage continues after this. >>> i am melissa rayburger, and we are continuing our coverage of the capitol hill, an agreement reached with the democrats and republicans to reach the deal. vice president joe biden came to meet with the democrats and try to sell the new deal that would prevent the across-the-board...
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. >>> crunch time for the fiscal cliff. the key players to meet at the white house with just four days left until the deadline. >> they called him stormin norman. america remembering general norman schwarzkopf. >> and have gun, will teach. hundreds of educators get a hands-on lesson in firearms. controversial proposal. good morning. welcome to "early start." 5:00 a.m. in the east. >>> it is the last friday of 2012. i've just had that pointed out to us. one final desperate attempt to dodge the fiscal cliff, just four days left before we go over the edge triggers tax hikes, spending cuts that could send the nation back into recession. the president calling for members of the congress the back. a gang of six attending. vice president biden, harry reid, house minority leader nancy pelosi, mitch mcconnell and john boehner representing the republicans. brianna keilar is live from washington. is anybody optimistic that a deal could be done today around a table? >> i will tell you the optimism is sort of sinking. senate majority le
. >>> crunch time for the fiscal cliff. the key players to meet at the white house with just four days left until the deadline. >> they called him stormin norman. america remembering general norman schwarzkopf. >> and have gun, will teach. hundreds of educators get a hands-on lesson in firearms. controversial proposal. good morning. welcome to "early start." 5:00 a.m. in the east. >>> it is the last friday of 2012. i've just had that pointed out to us....
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tonight's question, who will the public blame if we go over the fiscal cliff? text a for democrats, text b for republicans to 622329. i'll bring you the results later in the show. >>> joining me now is congressman elijah cummings of maryland. welcome to the show. >> it's good to be with you. >> what do you make of the latest posturing. the house will they reconvene before january? they have a lot of stuff to do, so clearly they can't make it back to d.c. to do the people's business. >> as you said a few minutes ago, we have been assured we would be given at least 48 hours notice before we would have to come back, that means right now, is that probably the earliest we will come back is saturday morning. that would only leave saturday and sunday to get anything done, because i doubt that the house will be in session on new year's eve. i doubt it. >> right. >> basically what you're talking about right now, we have two days. this has been a game that's been played on this. this plan b that mr. boehner put forth was everybody knew it wasn't going anywhere. and sadly
tonight's question, who will the public blame if we go over the fiscal cliff? text a for democrats, text b for republicans to 622329. i'll bring you the results later in the show. >>> joining me now is congressman elijah cummings of maryland. welcome to the show. >> it's good to be with you. >> what do you make of the latest posturing. the house will they reconvene before january? they have a lot of stuff to do, so clearly they can't make it back to d.c. to do the people's...
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how likely is it that we'll go over the fiscal cliff? i'm curious about the mood in washington right now. >> there is an increase in optimism because of the mood out of that meeting today. but i still would say the people who are -- placing bets in this town still expect that the nation will go over the fiscal cliff. so still a little bit more hope than what we woke up this morning, but no one is counting on being off on new year's eve. >> randy. >> jessica, thank you, more now on the raw politics, good to see you both. cornell, let me start with you here, the president said he wanted to see a straight up or down vote. as we mentioned that could happen in the senate. we could lose the up or down vote. >> you are going to see something come out of the senate. you have to pay attention to the tone, i think you will see something come out of the senate on up and down, but i think the problem comes on the house side, whether or not in fact speaker john boehner is going to allow what the senate sends their way to go on an up or down vote, wit
how likely is it that we'll go over the fiscal cliff? i'm curious about the mood in washington right now. >> there is an increase in optimism because of the mood out of that meeting today. but i still would say the people who are -- placing bets in this town still expect that the nation will go over the fiscal cliff. so still a little bit more hope than what we woke up this morning, but no one is counting on being off on new year's eve. >> randy. >> jessica, thank you, more...
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does he want to go over the fiscal cliff? some are saying he needs more than he would just get from the rich guys. >> i doubt that he wants to go over the cliff. and i must say, president obama has repeatedly referred to himself as the unique politician, he's different than everyone. there is no politician i know would want to get into a situation like this. and barack obama marchs to his own drummer and it's possible, but i kind of doubt it. >> you wrote a piece in the wall street journal, called "no guardrails", you said the old society kept the politicians in order in washington, self-order and self-restraint. all of those disappeared as a result of the "me" generation and you say that obama is the epitome of a the "me" generation president that he sees things from his perspective and won't bend. >> the original metafor, you do have guardrails on a highway, people drive 75 miles per hour and occasionally someone gets out of control and drives too fast and you don't want them going over the cliff so to speak, you want to pr
does he want to go over the fiscal cliff? some are saying he needs more than he would just get from the rich guys. >> i doubt that he wants to go over the cliff. and i must say, president obama has repeatedly referred to himself as the unique politician, he's different than everyone. there is no politician i know would want to get into a situation like this. and barack obama marchs to his own drummer and it's possible, but i kind of doubt it. >> you wrote a piece in the wall street...
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. >>> there is a full cornucopia of cliffs on this fiscal friday. the president plans to pop another tax proposal on congress, but will it pass? the clack is ticking. latest ahead. >>> so what would a cliff jump really mean for american business? you will hear directly as we reconvene our exclusive small biz all-star panel. >>> plus, call it the retail hu "hunger games." three companies that may not survive. >>> predictions 2013. big calls for the new year, mandy. >>> bring it on. the s&p 500 is on track for a fifth straight decline. some of the hope does seem to be coming out of the market of late for a deal. of course, there could still be time. nonetheless, what we have seen is a drop of 1.3% so far this week. indead, the s&p's longest losing streak in three months. even the good news on home sales. not helping the three major averages which are on pace for their biggest weekly drop in six weeks. keep in mind, many investors are still away for the holiday shortened week. volume is light. that does tend to exacerbate market swings. let's get down
. >>> there is a full cornucopia of cliffs on this fiscal friday. the president plans to pop another tax proposal on congress, but will it pass? the clack is ticking. latest ahead. >>> so what would a cliff jump really mean for american business? you will hear directly as we reconvene our exclusive small biz all-star panel. >>> plus, call it the retail hu "hunger games." three companies that may not survive. >>> predictions 2013. big calls for the...
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we'll show you coming up. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, the fiscal cliff. the dow is _ _ this marks the longt losing >>> stocks once again heading lower for a fifth day on those concerns about the fiscal cliff. the dow is down 106 plus points marking the longest losing streak in three months. >>> former bay area city councilman is about to learn firsthand how washington works or doesn't work. he is newly elected congressman heading on to the capitol hill quagmire. cbs5 reporter juliette goodrich talked to elect eric st -- eric swelwell. >> it is avoidable. >> reporter: he said he's ready to bring some small town solutions to capitol hill. do you really think you can take the city of dublin politics to wash and it's going to work? >> -- to washington and it's going to work? >> at the end of the day it's about personal relationships and trust. >> reporter: he said he had to work with republicans in order to pass the city budget and says it's the same kind. compromise strategy in washington -- kind of compromise strategy in washington. >> i'm still confident w
we'll show you coming up. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, the fiscal cliff. the dow is _ _ this marks the longt losing >>> stocks once again heading lower for a fifth day on those concerns about the fiscal cliff. the dow is down 106 plus points marking the longest losing streak in three months. >>> former bay area city councilman is about to learn firsthand how washington works or doesn't work. he is newly elected congressman heading on to the capitol hill quagmire. cbs5 reporter juliette...
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we continued on that with the fiscal cliff. they also lost because they became the party of illegitimate rape where liberals and democrats are once fighting a losing battle. now it's become what do we do in the case of rape and incest which is a total losing thing for them. >> when you're barely -- when you've barely had sex basically. >> right. now we're dealing with the party of glocks. when liberals try to take away everyone's guns, that's a losing argument for democrats. now it's everybody has a right to get a glock or bushmaster. i don't know if that's a winning argument long term or is good for the country. >> did the republicans learn anything? is there any lesson you would advise them to take into 2013? >> you know, i think that -- it's like dealing with children. you want -- you have got to be for something, right? this is the problem. the republican party, and we all have very good republican friends. i don't hate republicans like some people in the country do. i like republicans. by the way, i have to defeat somebody
we continued on that with the fiscal cliff. they also lost because they became the party of illegitimate rape where liberals and democrats are once fighting a losing battle. now it's become what do we do in the case of rape and incest which is a total losing thing for them. >> when you're barely -- when you've barely had sex basically. >> right. now we're dealing with the party of glocks. when liberals try to take away everyone's guns, that's a losing argument for democrats. now...
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in the meantime, we'll look at the impact the fiscal cliff has on individual states. montana unlike many, may be facing a double whammy. not only are rising taxes a threat on households, but federal aid for things like acculture could compound the problems if we go over the cliff. >> indeed, joining us to spell out the details is montana governor schweitzer. great to have you with us. we heard from a farmer in your state. he laid out the wation and it didn't sound good at all. what do you see as the impact on your state from that? >> don't tax me. tax the guy behind the tree. that's what we're faced with. everybody wants to pay lower taxes and get more services if you're in defense, you say, we need the money. if you're in agriculture, you see we need subsidized crop insurance. where does it end? in montana, we've had eight years of -- they're not willing to do that in washington, d.c. they just kick the can down the road. >> what does it mean in terms of federal aid or reduction in federal aid if we go over the fiscal cliff and even if we don't go over the cliff, and
in the meantime, we'll look at the impact the fiscal cliff has on individual states. montana unlike many, may be facing a double whammy. not only are rising taxes a threat on households, but federal aid for things like acculture could compound the problems if we go over the cliff. >> indeed, joining us to spell out the details is montana governor schweitzer. great to have you with us. we heard from a farmer in your state. he laid out the wation and it didn't sound good at all. what do you...
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if we do go over the fiscal cliff, even if in the short time. we are already seeing taxes go up across the board. you know the 3.8% obamacare tax and an increase most likely on those that earn $400,000 or more will go up quite a bit on a percentage basis. so we are going to see a slower economy, less money in the economy, and the stock market doesn't like that because corporations won't earn as much. everybody needs to put on their seatbelt because this will last for a longtime, even going into the debt conversation that will happen in about two months from now. things are a mess, and we need to get things straight eped out quickly. >> he is the managing partner at chap wood, happy new year. we will talk again soon. >> you too. take care. >>> new details emerging about the deadly september 11th attack on our consulate in libya. what we are now learning about the changes made to the talking points about the attack. plus, an oil rig trying to get out of the path of a major storm runs aground. this is off the coast of alaska. new information on the
if we do go over the fiscal cliff, even if in the short time. we are already seeing taxes go up across the board. you know the 3.8% obamacare tax and an increase most likely on those that earn $400,000 or more will go up quite a bit on a percentage basis. so we are going to see a slower economy, less money in the economy, and the stock market doesn't like that because corporations won't earn as much. everybody needs to put on their seatbelt because this will last for a longtime, even going into...
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with the fiscal cliff, and before that, it was all about europe. david: larry, your picks, disney and direct tv, i know you like the vegas stocks, las vegas sans, boyd gaming as well, but what about john's point that just to be safe because you never know. i mean, the worse can happen, happened before, and could happen again, those jokers inside the beltway very often don't come to a conclusion. wouldn't it be safe to put at least 10 #% of the portfolio in cash right now just in case? >> i just can't see it. the math is so compelling on the other side, and you have this just incredible sentiment. thirty years now, you have not been able to lose money in bonds. a lot of people think that it's impossible to lose money in bonds, and it is. you surely are not going to make any money in bonds other than clip your coupon. you're not going to make any money in cash. david: let me just stop you for a sec about bonds here because it is not impossible to lose money on bonds if the companies they are based on go bankrupt or the governments they are based on g
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"fiscal cliff" and there's some folks meeting today. we'll tell you about that meeting coming up. >> and a police officer catches criminals in the act inside his own home. why he had to bail out on trying to catch them. >>> and muni is celebrating 100 years in san francisco. we'll give you a little bit of history on the transit group and tell you how they're planning to celebrate today. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, >> your realtime captioner: linda marie macdonald >>> hi, everyone. good morning. it is friday, december 28. i'm frank mallicoat. >> i'm michelle griego. time now just about 6:30. some developing news from oakland. police are at work at two crime scenes after a total of three people were killed overnight. about 1:00 this morning two people were shot to death in the 800 block of mead avenue in west oakland. then at about 2:30, one person was killed in a stabbing on walnut street in the seminary area of oakland. police are investigating the possibility the killings are related. >>> also in oakland, one person is dead from a collisi
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you've got six days to prevent this country from going over the fiscal cliff and today at least, we didn't see any action. nothing. nothing, nada. now, i'm not trying to be a grinch here. i hope everyone's had a merry, merry christmas. just like the president prescribed. >> drink some eggnog, have some christmas cookies, sing some christmas carols. >> but today's the 26th. you've drunk, you eaten and you've sung. now is the time for action. the latest news out of washington tonight, treasury secretary tim geithner told congress that the country will hit the debt ceiling on december 31st, new year's eve, some two months earlier than expected. but there is still no date yet on when the house of representatives will be called into session to veto a vote on any deal. president obama cut his hawaiian vacation short and is due to land in washington tomorrow. but if politicians aren't feeling enough urgency, the american people certainly are. a new gallup poll shows that 50% of americans think a deal is likely. that's down nine points from just a few weeks ago. if we go over the cliff, it will af
you've got six days to prevent this country from going over the fiscal cliff and today at least, we didn't see any action. nothing. nothing, nada. now, i'm not trying to be a grinch here. i hope everyone's had a merry, merry christmas. just like the president prescribed. >> drink some eggnog, have some christmas cookies, sing some christmas carols. >> but today's the 26th. you've drunk, you eaten and you've sung. now is the time for action. the latest news out of washington tonight,...
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economy will go off the so- called "fiscal cliff." that's when automatic spending increases and cuts would take effect. reaching a deal won't be easy because both sides are involved in a high stakes political blame game. >> we are here in washington working while the members of the house of representatives are out watching movies and watching the kids play soccer and basketball and doing all kinds of things. they should be here. >> i told the president we would be happy to look at wah he proposes but the truth is we are coming up against a hard deadline and as i said this is a conversation we should have had months ago. >> reporter: democrats want to extend the bush-era tax cuts to everyone except those americans making $250,000 or more a year. many republicans are against any tax increases. most americans just want something to be done. >> people are just tired of partisanship and they want everyone to come together. >> reporter: if lawmakers don't reach a deal by january 1, many economists are concerned it could eventually lead to a
economy will go off the so- called "fiscal cliff." that's when automatic spending increases and cuts would take effect. reaching a deal won't be easy because both sides are involved in a high stakes political blame game. >> we are here in washington working while the members of the house of representatives are out watching movies and watching the kids play soccer and basketball and doing all kinds of things. they should be here. >> i told the president we would be happy to...
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it is like, my god, the fiscal cliff, the fiscal cliff. we'll deal with it in two months. jessica yellin, so much more to talk to you about. we'll check in later, but thanks so much. >>> as we wait for republicans and democrats to come to the microphones, one democrat just left the meeting, he's going to be joining us next. sten to thesy progressive customers. i plugged in snapshot, and 30 days later, i was saving big on car insurance. with snapshot, i knew what i could save before i switched to progressive. the better i drive, the more i save. i wish our company had something this cool. you're not filming this, are you? aw! camera shy. snapshot from progressive. test-drive snapshot before you switch. visit progressive.com today. to volunteer to help those in need. when a twinge of back pain surprises him. morning starts in high spirits, but there's a growing pain in his lower back. as lines grow longer, his pain continues to linger. but after a long day of helping others, he gets some helpful advice. just two aleve have the strength to keep back pain away all day. today,
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so where do fiscal cliff talks stand at this critical hour? nbc's kristen welker is on the north lawn and luke russert are both following developments this saturday afternoon. kristen, i'll start with you. any indication at this particular point as to what's happening behind closed doors this afternoon? >> reporter: well, i think most of the action is going on in the hill where staffers with majority leader reid and minority leader mcconnell are trying to conjure up some last-minute deal and this plan would not be the grand bargain that john boehner started initially working on. that plan would have dealt with tax reform and deficit reduction and this will be a much more scaled back version that will deal with the issue of taxes and that is still the big sticking point, taxes. of course, democrats and president obama have called for tax rates to increase on those making $250,000 or less. republicans have said that's way too low. so they're thinking about potentially compromising on a rate that would be $400,000 or $500,000, but some republican
so where do fiscal cliff talks stand at this critical hour? nbc's kristen welker is on the north lawn and luke russert are both following developments this saturday afternoon. kristen, i'll start with you. any indication at this particular point as to what's happening behind closed doors this afternoon? >> reporter: well, i think most of the action is going on in the hill where staffers with majority leader reid and minority leader mcconnell are trying to conjure up some last-minute deal...
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host: what led to the fiscal cliff? guest: the fiscal cliff is the combination of a bunch of different tax and spending decisions made by washington, dating back over the past 12 years. we had the bush tax cuts that began in 2001 and 2003. we extended them under president obama. those are set to end on monday. $110 billion in annual spending cuts were agreed to under president obama as part of the debt ceiling negotiation. those begin on tuesday. we have the payroll tax cut in place for two years, takes about two percentage points off people's taxes, bill will end on monday. business tax breaks, bill will end on monday. the alternative minimum tax, which is confusing, but it would be a disaster if that was not taken care of, because it would raise the taxes of about 30 million americans for their 2012 income and 2013. and all the confusion could screw up the whole tax filing season. who knows when you will be filing your taxes, because the irs does not know which tax rates will be applied and who will be responsible for
host: what led to the fiscal cliff? guest: the fiscal cliff is the combination of a bunch of different tax and spending decisions made by washington, dating back over the past 12 years. we had the bush tax cuts that began in 2001 and 2003. we extended them under president obama. those are set to end on monday. $110 billion in annual spending cuts were agreed to under president obama as part of the debt ceiling negotiation. those begin on tuesday. we have the payroll tax cut in place for two...
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the house of representatives is reconvening to consider the fiscal cliff deal. overwhelmingly approved by the senate in the wee hours of this new year. republicans meet at 1:00. the democrats are said to be going in now and that vice president joe biden who, of course, was key in making the senate deal happen, will be in that caucus, we're told. big questions, though, still outstanding. when might the house vote on this deal? can speaker boehner come up with the votes to pass it? or will republicans try to amend it and end send it back. good day. happy new year. i'm chris jansing. there are a lot of moving parts on capitol hill. let's get right to nbc's luke russert who is on the hill and where things stand. first, let's listen into the start of this session. >> the speakers are in washington d.c., january 1, 2013. i hereby hereby appoint the honorable robert j. dole to act as speaker in temporary on this day, signed john a. boehner, speaker of the house of representatives. >> the prayer will be offered by our chaplain father conroy. >> let us pray. eternal god,
the house of representatives is reconvening to consider the fiscal cliff deal. overwhelmingly approved by the senate in the wee hours of this new year. republicans meet at 1:00. the democrats are said to be going in now and that vice president joe biden who, of course, was key in making the senate deal happen, will be in that caucus, we're told. big questions, though, still outstanding. when might the house vote on this deal? can speaker boehner come up with the votes to pass it? or will...
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." >>> "outfront" next, just six days until we all fall over the fiscal cliff and tonight, there's no action on capitol hill. will that change by the end of the year? tonight, two congressmen come "outfront" to talk specifics. plus, arizona's attorney general backs a plan reminiscent of the nra to arm school principles. does more guns in schools begin to add up? and the biggest political fumbles. the best of the worst from our the best of the worst from our politicians. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >>> i'm in for erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, christmas is over. washington back to work. the countydown is on. the clock is ticking. you've got six days to prevent this country from going over the fiscal cliff and today at least, we didn't see any action. nothing. nothing, nada. now, i'm not trying to be a grinch here. i hope everyone's had a merry, merry christmas. just like the president prescribed. >> drink some eggnog, have some christmas cookies, sing some christmas carols. >> but today's the 26th. you've drunk, you eaten and you've sung. now is the time for action. the la
." >>> "outfront" next, just six days until we all fall over the fiscal cliff and tonight, there's no action on capitol hill. will that change by the end of the year? tonight, two congressmen come "outfront" to talk specifics. plus, arizona's attorney general backs a plan reminiscent of the nra to arm school principles. does more guns in schools begin to add up? and the biggest political fumbles. the best of the worst from our the best of the worst from our...
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just three hours until we head over the fiscal cliff. the large concern here is the impact that going over the cliff would have on the economy. now economists say look, it's not going to be a windfall on wednesday. it's not going to be a complete disaster all at once. but what could happen is that the markets could begin to respond on wednesday. they're closed of course tomorrow for the holiday. and then over time, the average american could wind up paying about $2,000 more in their taxes. and if we went over the cliff and stayed over the cliff for a significant amount of time, the economy could eventually begin to dip back into recession. and that is really the big concern here. you've heard president obama talk about those concerns when he has held some of these public campaign events. he held one today to pressure congress to act. he has talked about the fact that this is a really about americans and the economy and preventing the economic recovery from being harmed. milissa? >> kristen, there concern at all in the white house that if
just three hours until we head over the fiscal cliff. the large concern here is the impact that going over the cliff would have on the economy. now economists say look, it's not going to be a windfall on wednesday. it's not going to be a complete disaster all at once. but what could happen is that the markets could begin to respond on wednesday. they're closed of course tomorrow for the holiday. and then over time, the average american could wind up paying about $2,000 more in their taxes. and...
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that's not even part of the fiscal cliff. that's in addition to the fiscal cliff. we're looking at an avalanche of regulations that were drawn up in the first four years of the obama administration, but then conveniently only beginning to be made public after the president's job was secure. his job is secure. now yours may not be, because hundreds of billions of dollars in regulatory costs are hitting the economy. look at what epa and others are doing. >> right. but grover, speaking of magicianship, you appear to be doing that right now. it looks like rates will increase. that technically is not a good thing for you and your pledge. >> it's a very bad thing for the economy, because what they're talking about is some -- allowing the rates to go back up, not just back up. remember, we go back -- the bush tax cuts disappear and you add the obama care tax increases. so they're taking the top rate not to 39.6, but to 43.4 for half of all small business income in the country. and people at high income earners of the united states. add to that the 35% corporate income tax
that's not even part of the fiscal cliff. that's in addition to the fiscal cliff. we're looking at an avalanche of regulations that were drawn up in the first four years of the obama administration, but then conveniently only beginning to be made public after the president's job was secure. his job is secure. now yours may not be, because hundreds of billions of dollars in regulatory costs are hitting the economy. look at what epa and others are doing. >> right. but grover, speaking of...
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caller: yes, i am glad to something being done about the fiscal cliff. the american people need to understand that the republicans put us in this situation, because when bill clinton left office, he left with a surplus. the republicans spent all the money. we went into recession. then president obama came on scene, and he brought us out of the recession, and it takes money to get out of recession. now they are trying to blame him for all of the spending. mitch mcconnell, he is a disgrace to the senate floor. he said he one of the president to be a one-term president. the people voted obama back in. host: the minority leader, mitch mcconnell, has been negotiating with the vice president joe biden to come to some sort of agreement. what you make of that? caller: i'm talking about what mitch mcconnell said in the beginning. he did not want to work with this president. the want it to see him fail. they're hurting the american people by not helping obama. obama is good for the country, but people that listen to rush limbaugh, sarah palin, and fox news, that i
caller: yes, i am glad to something being done about the fiscal cliff. the american people need to understand that the republicans put us in this situation, because when bill clinton left office, he left with a surplus. the republicans spent all the money. we went into recession. then president obama came on scene, and he brought us out of the recession, and it takes money to get out of recession. now they are trying to blame him for all of the spending. mitch mcconnell, he is a disgrace to the...
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covering all things fiscal cliff. as we are ticking down to 2013 we are also ticking down to the deadline is set up by politicians here in washington. it deadline that was supposed to be so unapeeling they would not -- unappealing they would not get near the sequester and across-the-board cuts and tax hikes that would ensue, the expiration of the bush era tax cuts. here we are just about two hours away and joining me on the phone, a.b. stoddard with the hill. your take of all of this and how this s developing? >> bret, i'm not surprised that people are scrambling to try to get it done. not going to make the cliff deadline but there is an attempt by republicans and democrats to get something done before this really becomes meaningful and there is a few hours into the january 1 and 2 dates where they can still stop something severe from happening. you heard today the beginning of the spin from the republican side from senator mitch mcconnell the republican leader on the senate side saying this is is the most important t
covering all things fiscal cliff. as we are ticking down to 2013 we are also ticking down to the deadline is set up by politicians here in washington. it deadline that was supposed to be so unapeeling they would not -- unappealing they would not get near the sequester and across-the-board cuts and tax hikes that would ensue, the expiration of the bush era tax cuts. here we are just about two hours away and joining me on the phone, a.b. stoddard with the hill. your take of all of this and how...
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cliff that deals with this fiscal cliff. how irresponsible is that? what that means to americans and people all across the country is that instead of starting this year by people showing the courage to solve this problem, we will move this into next year, and what that means is the first quarter, the first six months of this next year, will be met with hand-to- hand combat as we deal with issues everyone knows has to be dealt with. what that really means to our citizens and citizens around the world is our economy is not going to be what it could have been. the quality of life for americans is not on to be what it should have been because we have not acted in a way that is proper, we are not carrying out the duties that we were hired to carry out. >> i am not even sure there is a question, but your proposal is over a 10-year period. yet a trillion-dollar increase in the debt ceiling will not even last a year. at best. >> right. >> do you know whatever you propose cuts to medicare that everybody gets out of this -- [indiscern
cliff that deals with this fiscal cliff. how irresponsible is that? what that means to americans and people all across the country is that instead of starting this year by people showing the courage to solve this problem, we will move this into next year, and what that means is the first quarter, the first six months of this next year, will be met with hand-to- hand combat as we deal with issues everyone knows has to be dealt with. what that really means to our citizens and citizens around the...
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avoid the fiscal cliff and people's taxes going up or do nothing and let it happen. we didn't want to be in that position, but speaker boehner pulled out of the deal a week and a half ago. it's not fair to blame the president. >> but i've got to ago you this question because this is one f the big sticking points left. whose taxes go up, people making over $250,000 as the president wants or republicans suggested nobody or people making over a million dollars, but you, senator schumer, had proposed raising taxes only on those making over a million dollars. and i want to take a look at what you said about this proposal going up $250,000 last year. you said "in the eyes of many, it is hard to ask households making $250,000 or $300,000 a year. in large parts of the country, that kind of income does not get you a big home or lots of vacations or anything else that is associated with wealth. it also would affect too many small businesses." weren't you right back then when you said it would be wrong to raise taxes on those? >> we offered that to our republican colleagues two
avoid the fiscal cliff and people's taxes going up or do nothing and let it happen. we didn't want to be in that position, but speaker boehner pulled out of the deal a week and a half ago. it's not fair to blame the president. >> but i've got to ago you this question because this is one f the big sticking points left. whose taxes go up, people making over $250,000 as the president wants or republicans suggested nobody or people making over a million dollars, but you, senator schumer, had...
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cliff to deal with this fiscal cliff. again, a total lack of courage, lack of leadership. >> senator corker does congress realize how ridiculous this looks to the american public duelling press conferences, zero substance. we are minutes away from a deadline here and it doesn't look like anyone in washington is taking it seriously. >> i think most of us understand it. i think you guys know that i've laid out a very detailed bill to deal with it. i shared it with the white house, with speaker boehner, with leaders at every level. i've put forth an entitlement reform package. the problem is we don't want to face up to the tough issues that our nation is dealing with and yes, i think we understand that. we should not be having back room meetings. the reason we have the closed door meetings is again we don't have the courage to debate these issues out on the senate floor. >> so that no one gets the blame, instead everybody gets the blame. >> that's exactly right. >> i want to ask you a question about speaker boehner and plan
cliff to deal with this fiscal cliff. again, a total lack of courage, lack of leadership. >> senator corker does congress realize how ridiculous this looks to the american public duelling press conferences, zero substance. we are minutes away from a deadline here and it doesn't look like anyone in washington is taking it seriously. >> i think most of us understand it. i think you guys know that i've laid out a very detailed bill to deal with it. i shared it with the white house,...
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the fiscal cliff. a fiscal cliff special coming up new year's day. i have to go to bed early. too bad. >> sorry. >>> the next hour of "cnn saturday morning" begins right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >>> good morning, everyone. i'm alison kosik. >> and i'm chp cristi paul. we hope this saturday's been good to you so far. >>> and hope coming from washington with negotiations going on this weekend between the two top senate leaders. cnn radio capitol hill correspondent lisa desjardins is in washington. good morning, lisa. you were on capitol hill yesterday for all of the political action between president obama, congressional leaders. do you think we're closer to a deal? i'm hearing optimism from the president. is that real or is that imagined? >> reporter: right. what do you say? mod deftly or moderately optimistic he said? i think it's for real. people have wanting to get to this point for even a chance at a deal. that's where we are. not a deal yet but there's a chance for a deal. now two senators being the principal negotiators. mitch mcdonaconnell and harry r.
the fiscal cliff. a fiscal cliff special coming up new year's day. i have to go to bed early. too bad. >> sorry. >>> the next hour of "cnn saturday morning" begins right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >>> good morning, everyone. i'm alison kosik. >> and i'm chp cristi paul. we hope this saturday's been good to you so far. >>> and hope coming from washington with negotiations going on this weekend between the two top senate leaders....
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economy from going off the fiscal cliff. after a late afternoon meeting with the top four congressional leaders at the white house, president obama offered this assessment. >>> i'm modestly optimistic -- nobody is going to get 100% of what they want. but let's make sure that middle class families and the american economy and in fact the world economy aren't adversely impacted because people can't do their jobs. >> sources say house speaker are john boehner deferred to senate colleagues and told them house leaders would consider, accept or amend their plan. what s not expected to be included in any deal is increasing the debt limit, something democrats have wanted and republicans have resisted. >> we he haded a long meeting in the white house and it was constructive. we hope that it will bear fruit. but that is what we hoped a lot. i think that the next 24 hours will be very instructive as to what we are able to accomplish. >> if it doesn't work president obama wants lawmakers to vote on what would essentially be plan c. here
economy from going off the fiscal cliff. after a late afternoon meeting with the top four congressional leaders at the white house, president obama offered this assessment. >>> i'm modestly optimistic -- nobody is going to get 100% of what they want. but let's make sure that middle class families and the american economy and in fact the world economy aren't adversely impacted because people can't do their jobs. >> sources say house speaker are john boehner deferred to senate...
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caller: there is no fiscal cliff. nobody said what the actual fiscal cliff is. to try topoinloy confuse the american people. nobody has ever told us what the fiscal cliff means. it does not mean anything. it is all a plou. host: jack in montana, your on the air. caller: hi. i wanted to say that we just got an announcement -- i have a small business on the side, but i also am employed by a large employer. we got an announcement yesterday that they are going to raise our withholding rates and social security withholding. it is going to cost the average person a lot of money. i don't think there's any doubt that the fiscal cliff is bad. host: what did your notice say? caller: it said that tax tables will be used for 2013 and that you can expect that your check will be greatly impacted by the increased taxes and social security withholding. host: who do you work for? caller: the state of montana. host: david in pasadena, maryland. caller: good morning. i think if you change the name, it might give a better perspective. it should be called the bush giveaway fiscal cl
caller: there is no fiscal cliff. nobody said what the actual fiscal cliff is. to try topoinloy confuse the american people. nobody has ever told us what the fiscal cliff means. it does not mean anything. it is all a plou. host: jack in montana, your on the air. caller: hi. i wanted to say that we just got an announcement -- i have a small business on the side, but i also am employed by a large employer. we got an announcement yesterday that they are going to raise our withholding rates and...
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let president obama own the fiscal cliff. it should be called the obama cliff. >> julia: people know how much they would have to pay. folks on the man on the street interviews . people are looking at the numbers going what. >> kelly: in today's meeting should be a crucial meet the white house should have come with its plan and boehner should have come with a plan and senator reid should come with a plan but senator reid is name call speaker of the house john boehner giving retaliation of what is done . you have a lot of name calling. listen to what boehner said in response to senator reid. senator reid should talk less and legislate more. the house has passed legislation to avoid the entire fiscal cliff and senate democrats have not. now they are coming into the meeting and there is already acrimoney instead of reconciliation. >> part of the problem, i am sorry, the house passed two spending bills and ideas to meet the fiscal cliff and cent -- subject it to the senate. they have two over there . john boehner said let me get t
let president obama own the fiscal cliff. it should be called the obama cliff. >> julia: people know how much they would have to pay. folks on the man on the street interviews . people are looking at the numbers going what. >> kelly: in today's meeting should be a crucial meet the white house should have come with its plan and boehner should have come with a plan and senator reid should come with a plan but senator reid is name call speaker of the house john boehner giving...
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as the fiscal cliff nears, wall street is feeling the heat. today stocks closed down for the fifth day in a row following the demise of speaker boehner's plan "b." the dow closed below the 13,000 mark and lost 2% for the week. and if you think wall street isn't reacting to every twist and turn in this cliff drama, just look at this chart. shortly after 10:00 a.m. yesterday, senate leader harry reid said he didn't think the fiscal cliff could be avoided. as you can see, stocks plunged. shortly after noon, senator scott brown posted on facebook of all things that he was headed back to washington because the president had reached out to the gop leadership with a proposal. then the markets bounced up a bit. but then cnbc's john harwood tweeted the white house denied skost brown's post and markets dropped again. thanks, john, for that. then came a late day surge on news that speaker boehner called the house back to washington, and late today we learned that the white house is holding a conference call with ceos on the status of the fiscal cliff neg
as the fiscal cliff nears, wall street is feeling the heat. today stocks closed down for the fifth day in a row following the demise of speaker boehner's plan "b." the dow closed below the 13,000 mark and lost 2% for the week. and if you think wall street isn't reacting to every twist and turn in this cliff drama, just look at this chart. shortly after 10:00 a.m. yesterday, senate leader harry reid said he didn't think the fiscal cliff could be avoided. as you can see, stocks plunged....